tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post2925595951134685934..comments2023-10-23T12:14:23.800-06:00Comments on Bare Naked Nate: The Right Way to Be Gay (and Mormon)Naked Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-60810088937188420872015-12-12T09:04:22.928-07:002015-12-12T09:04:22.928-07:00Very insightful, Nate. You impress me with your wi...Very insightful, Nate. You impress me with your wisdom, and writing skills, as well as your sensitivity and willingness to accept others. Pretty amazing. XO!Renhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03769020121134086286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-83859047615677997512015-10-19T20:06:47.736-06:002015-10-19T20:06:47.736-06:00I feel like it is the imperfect people of the chur...I feel like it is the imperfect people of the church who say those things and not the church itself, I truly believe God leads the LDS church and He has a much kinder approach.<br /> He loves each one of us so much. If I err I always hope that my actions reflect the love of Christ and not the misjudgments of man.<br />Thank you for sharing and helping me understand a bit more your and others struggles.Heather Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17850995893317730862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-16454360342384745552015-10-18T03:55:27.858-06:002015-10-18T03:55:27.858-06:00Hey, Snowflake. Good question. I'm not sure of...Hey, Snowflake. Good question. I'm not sure of the answer because I'm not a woman. But I'm sure there are a lot of things I've shared that apply to our lesbian sisters. I hesitate to speak on their behalf, but the core of my message remains, for all LGBT members f the church. I'd presume that lesbian women could even have more of a struggle than me because of the way the church is mostly run by men and some of the misogyny that exists. The best way you can be supportive of lesbian women in the church is probably very similar to the way you can be supportive of gay men and transgendered members in the church. Thanks again for your question and interest. Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-17871039335195912082015-10-17T20:30:06.577-06:002015-10-17T20:30:06.577-06:00Is the same for women? What is a women's point...Is the same for women? What is a women's point of view for her experience? I just wonder if the other side had these same situations and feelings. I have friends that are women and men that have same sex attraction. But I only ever see articles about how hard it is for a man in the church. I'm just curious how I can be supportive to the women as well. Thank you for this!! It's not easy to put your story out. I appreciate you sharing! YourFavoriteSnowflakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07119033673908882824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-9426980521579660372015-10-09T23:54:42.029-06:002015-10-09T23:54:42.029-06:00Julie, thanks for your thoughts. Yeah, I've al...Julie, thanks for your thoughts. Yeah, I've always thought it was weird for a grown man to ask teenagers such personal questions. And those who are in their mid-life without having tasted of love and companionship, I ache for them. I'm sure there are many who would readily say that they delight in observing the law of chastity because they delight in pleasing the Lord. More power to them. I know what a personal decision this can be. For years, that's why I wouldn't date or consider sexual activity. I just wanted to please the Lord. Now, I'm just in a place where I don't honestly think I can go it alone for another 38 years. Others can and do, but for me, I got to a pretty dark place. I'm sure others strongly hope and believe that whatever joys they're missing out on will be made up to them in the next life. It's a beautiful promise and I can see how many are motivated by it. No criticism here. I'm just in a place where I feel like I can experience companionship AND secure the blessings of heaven. It's not either/or anymore.Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-77978450376507192132015-10-09T23:49:33.656-06:002015-10-09T23:49:33.656-06:00Thank you, Kirsten. I appreciate your comment. ;)Thank you, Kirsten. I appreciate your comment. ;)Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-3182218376021766092015-10-05T17:33:26.386-06:002015-10-05T17:33:26.386-06:00I appreciate your honesty and hope you are able to...I appreciate your honesty and hope you are able to start enjoying dating. I left the Mormon church in my early 20s and am very grateful for my post-Mormon dating and relationship experiences. I do not want to downplay in any way how very difficult it is to be gay in the Mormon church by saying this, but I believe that the Mormon Church is overly involved in the dating and sex lives of all its members - straight and gay - to a degree that is detrimental for normal human development. It is entirely inappropriate for lay clergy to ask LDS members - teenagers and adults - about the intimate details of their dating experiences. No other mainstream religion does this as routinely and pervasively. This isn't just about gay marriage. Single LDS members are expected to be "chaste" at any age. I personally have friends and family members who are well into middle age and have never experienced the affection, companionship, and intimacy that comes with dating. They are dutifully following the counsel of church leaders who tell them to wait until marriage. Sadly, they may miss out on some of the greatest joys of life.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07453564507732760084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-58199286445257312212015-09-30T19:09:07.211-06:002015-09-30T19:09:07.211-06:00I don't know you, but now I want to. 😉
You ar...I don't know you, but now I want to. 😉<br />You articulate so well what others think and feel. Thank you for your words and thoughts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-9122110678849240272015-09-30T15:06:42.325-06:002015-09-30T15:06:42.325-06:00I've done both. Interesting points raised and ...I've done both. Interesting points raised and some troubling questions for sure. But, in the same way that reading the Book of Mormon won't guarantee that the reader will join the church, reading the cesletter.com won't guarantee that readers will leave the church. One can be mindful of historical and doctrinal glaring holes and inconsistencies in the church and still make the decision to still be a member of the church.<br /><br />I hear you on indoctrination, however.By the way, nice profile name, haha.Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-88311328950081927312015-09-30T15:01:54.015-06:002015-09-30T15:01:54.015-06:00Thank you, Davis. Looking forward to catching up l...Thank you, Davis. Looking forward to catching up later. Been way too long.Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-21390508907160142902015-09-30T15:01:03.049-06:002015-09-30T15:01:03.049-06:00From one writer to another, thank you. Hope you...From one writer to another, thank you. Hope you're doing great, Mindy!Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-23369697694731571882015-09-30T15:00:25.387-06:002015-09-30T15:00:25.387-06:00Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Peter.Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Peter.Naked Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315324753533335005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-76061144702712360632015-09-30T13:16:53.387-06:002015-09-30T13:16:53.387-06:00Man...Indoctrination is a bitch. Go to cesletter.c...Man...Indoctrination is a bitch. Go to cesletter.com also exmormon reddit is a great place to get good insight.Tbaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12232728664274955811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-44593307890890915482015-09-30T09:22:53.525-06:002015-09-30T09:22:53.525-06:00Thanks, Nate. This is awesome. Another great pos...Thanks, Nate. This is awesome. Another great post. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539987115497296420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-72747742877381786092015-09-29T22:36:13.358-06:002015-09-29T22:36:13.358-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tbaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12232728664274955811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-59115419119415514842015-09-29T14:56:50.550-06:002015-09-29T14:56:50.550-06:00Wow. This is heartbreakingly beautiful. Wow. This is heartbreakingly beautiful. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00462571739822054360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149863372348528498.post-84563142184659167752015-09-29T14:23:30.020-06:002015-09-29T14:23:30.020-06:00You forgot one. Gay man waiting patiently to join ...You forgot one. Gay man waiting patiently to join God's one true church as soon as they approve Gay marriage. <br /><br />I have seen the hand of God in Gay marriage since the beginning of the AIDS crisis. I told my Gay friends that AIDS was not a sign that God hates Gays. The purpose of the AIDS crisis was to get Gay men to transform promiscuity into loving relationships. Those that are against Gay marriage do so on the same basis that black men were prohibited from the priesthood: bigotry. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244287356698559185noreply@blogger.com